The Fresh Loaf

A Community of Amateur Bakers and Artisan Bread Enthusiasts.

ISO recipe for pumpernickel sourdough bread using long fermentation

KimberlyM's picture
KimberlyM

ISO recipe for pumpernickel sourdough bread using long fermentation

Hello all.

I'm ready to branch out from all-purpose flour sourdough and would like to make a pumpernickel loaf. 

Because I have gluten sensitivity, I'm looking for a long, cold fermentation of at least 12-48 hours, to help break down the gluten. And I was hoping to find a recipe without a bunch of unusual ingredients. 

I have been using all purpose because because it is more easily available, is cheaper and has lower gluten than bread flour. But I am also looking for a sourdough bread recipe using bread flour/rye or wheat that has a longer fermentation. (I'm have not searched for this yet)

I know you can just change up the amount of starter and water temperature and air temperature to reduce fermentation time, but I really need a recipe to help me along at this point.

After years of having to limit my bread intake, I am so thrilled that I am finally able to eat bread. And I am so excited about this sourdough journey. 

Thanks again,

Kimberly 

tpassin's picture
tpassin

I'm not sure why you specify "pumpernickel" specifically.  A pumpernickel can be an American style, which might have 30 - 40% rye along with some coloring agent like coffee or cocoa.  Or it could be the very specialized German "real thing", made with a rye sour, 100% rye flour, and a 24 or more hour bake at a low oven temperature.  Here is a thread about it:

https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/49936/westphalian-pumpernickel

You might consider looking at an American "Jewish deli" style rye bread.  But they aren't made with an unusually long fermentation.  OTOH, I make them using starter instead of yeast, and usually give them an overnight bulk ferment.

Your first resource could be a search on this website.  One of the hits for "pumpernickel" is 

https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/13350/pumpernickel-bread-george-greenstein039s-quotsecrets-jewish-bakerquot

I would use 10% starter in place of the recipe's yeast.  I would mix it by hand, and expect it to bulk ferment overnight or possibly even for 10 - 12 hours.  But you would have to order the rye flour, since you probably won't find it in a store near you.

TomP

Abe's picture
Abe

Traditional pumpernickel is unleavened!?

Just a mix of dark coarse rye flour and cracked rye baked for a very long time.

I think the term pumpernickel has become to mean many different rye breads [very] loosely based on the original.  

tpassin's picture
tpassin

Ah! I misremembered from the Ginsberg book. It uses a *scald*, not a starter. I suppose you could call the entire bake one long scald ...

Abe's picture
Abe

"I suppose you could call the entire bake one long scald ..."

Good observation! 

I would love to make this bread authentically one day but I don't like the thought of baking the bread for 24 hours without me being able to keep an eye on it. 

tpassin's picture
tpassin

I've got a bag of the mixed rye flour for it from The Baker's Authority.  I might have 2 1/2 or 3 pounds left.  I also have a short Pullman pan.  Hmm, maybe I'll give it a try.  I've never tasted the real thing.  There's a small German food store near me and they have some imported German foodstuffs on their shelves.  I should go over and see if they have a package.

tpassin's picture
tpassin

Reading Ginsberg, he has most of the bake at 220 deg F and says that the amylase will continue to sweeten the bread during that time. I had thought that amylase was rendered inactive by temperatures that high. At any rate, it it's basically the same as a scald, I wonder if a lower temperature, maybe for longer, would work.  Slow cookers, and the Brod & Taylor proofer, get up to 195 deg F (90.5C).  I wonder if that would do it.  Just set it up, walk away, and come back a day and a half or two days later!

Abe's picture
Abe

scalds are done at 65C. But that is pouring hot water directly onto the flour. I would think it would be different when baking. 

A loaf of bread is often baked in a 230C oven for 35-40 min where the internal temperature of the baked loaf would have reached 98C. 

Now if you bake a very dense loaf of rye in an oven at 104C (220F) then it could very well be the right temperature.

tpassin's picture
tpassin

Much like a sous-vide, then.  Hold at the desired final temperature until cooked enough.

alcophile's picture
alcophile

Westfälischer Pumpernickel is a Protected Geographical Indication. This controls where it is produced and the ingredients. Yeast is allowed in the process. Here is a translation from the PGI:

It must be made exclusively from at least 90% rye bakery meal and/or wholemeal rye meal, water, salt, yeast and already baked Westphalian Pumpernickel; optionally, other foodstuffs from cereals (e.g. malts) and/or from sugar beets (e.g. beetroot (= syrup) or other processed products) may be included. No preservatives may be added.

The production process, from mixing the dough to baking, must take place in the defined geographical area. be carried out in the defined geographical area. If already baked pumpernickel is added as an ingredient, it must also be Westfälischer in accordance with this specification, it must also be produced in the defined geographical area.

The production area is part of the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia, namely the area of the Landschaftsverband Westfalen-Lippe excluding the district of Lippe.

More info: http://www.westfaelischer-pumpernickel.de/