March 27, 2021 - 2:08pm
grownyc grain (NE USA wheat)
I live in NYC and have been ordering wheat berries online for home milling and hearth loaf baking. I know the NE USA is not known for bread flour wheat but was curious what options exist. I came across the GrowNYC program that partners with a number of farms in the NE (see map below). Has anyone had success buying and baking wheat berries from one of these farms?
Although I left before I caught the bug, I'm from upstate near Farmer Ground, and lived in NYC for many years (Brooklyn, actually). I've held them in high regard for as long as I've known them. When I moved to the west coast I reached out but they do not have any distributors here. All that to say I'd try them if I were you.
You can pre-order large 25 or 50 lb bags for pickup at the farmers market grain stands around the city. The options are currently limited relative to older lists I found, but Farmer Ground is currently participating. They don't currently offer whole grains, but I do see wheat berries as an option on their website. It might be worth reaching out. Lakeview Organic seems to be the only supplier offering whole grains right now. Actually, I see "Wheat - Renan - Hard Red Winter", which caught my eye. I'm curious if that is the same as the French Renan you were using previously, or perhaps there are other Renan wheat varieties?
https://www.grownyc.org/files/upload/grownyc_grains_limited_product_list_0.pdf
I believe it is the same, though clearly grown by different farmers. I really liked that one.
Dear Head Up in the Clouds,
I bought some Red Fife Wheat and Spelt from a farm in update NY about five years ago. They sold in smaller quantities so that's why I paid for shipping to me here in Wisconsin. The berries were fine and I made some Red Fife Whole Wheat Sourdough and some ancient Roman Bread from Pompeii (British Museum Recipe). Both turned out well. My grandkids especially liked the Roman bread. The Red Fife was good but total cost was too high. About two years ago I came across a farmer who grew Wheat, Rye, Durum ( Semolina) and Spelt on his farm about 100 miles from me. He delivers free of charge to me when he comes to a local bakery. I've been milling my dark flours for seven years now. This has been the best arrangement.
I know upstate NY is not known as a grain growing region but in colonial times it was so it will grow. I'm originally from Woodside in Queens but other than the winters being hell here Wisconsin is much like upstate. My suggestion is just try it as I did in small quantities. The place I purchased from was organic so no worries there.
Happy Miling and Baking,
Big Crusty
Free Kindle ebook on just that.
A Guide to Northeast Grains. "In Partial Fulfillment of the Requirements For the Masters Degree of Science in Sustainable Food Systems at Green Mountain College." Kristina Razon, 13 January 2017.
Deals with ancient and heirloom grains in New England (US).
Lists farmers, millers, and bakeries. Worth the time to download just for those sources.
https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Northeast-Grains-Kristina-Razon-ebook/dp/B06W5DLKTV
Wow. What a find. Thanks for posting that. I'm considering buying a reading tablet just to keep up with all of the cheap or free ebooks you are posting.
I found an interesting article on the same subject on ediblemanhatten.com HERE.
Here is an interesting excerpt:
I must admit to sharing that mindset. It will be interesting to see how these local wheat varieties behave. I hadn't considered soft wheat hearth loaves.
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Mariana made some good comments on this exact thing: making bread from lower protein (French) flours with the correct handling:
https://www.thefreshloaf.com/comment/482481#comment-482481
and subsequent comments.
She made a previous comment, but that was betore she realized that the original poster, bijection05, was in France and was using French flours.
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Modern American bread recipes (ie, Tartine/FWSY style) are designed for modern American AP/bread flour, and it's the _recipe_ (formula) that misfires when lower protein flour is used.
Question: So how do the French make great bread from lower protein French flour?
Answer: they use formulas specifically designed for their flour.
Mariana explains.
Bon chance et bon appétit.
There is quite a lot to digest in that one. I missed that conversation initially, thanks for calling it to my attention.