January 29, 2023 - 12:30pm
Could this be considered bread?
So I took a 15 oz can of black refried beans, 1 cup of oatmeal, seasonings and spices, 1 jalapeno, half onion, 2 eggs.
So I fried two of the patties in oil, covered in cheese, on two pieces if toast. give one to guest.
Now if I made these with black bean flour and grain flour, and everything else as above, would that be considered bread?
My view is it doesn't matter how it is cooked
I was out of ground meat, so that is why I made bean and oatmeal patties. Any thoughts?
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Your delicious sounding sandwiches are very imaginative and show hoe necessity is the mother of invention. I guess the question of whether or not this is "bread" is really a philospohical venture.
"What is bread?"
Anything cooked that has starch in it? In this case oatmeal.
Something that is yeast risen? How about non-leavened bread? How about chemically leavened bread?
Only a mix of cereals? Where does that leave some keto breads (some are cheese based), starch-based breads (potato based,etc)
I think in this case, I would call the item what it most resembles and how it is used. It resembles a burger and was used as a sandwich filling so that is probably how I would identify it.
Yes my guest loved it, but I'm thinking that I should have added something extra for flavor.
Next time I'll try some flour I have. Even the white all purpose flour my dad give me. But I have others.
A different take on a bean burger…
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/nov/26/surprisingly-tasty-putting-neanderthal-cooking-to-the-test-recipe
It is also worth noting that the traditional way of making falafel is by grinding soaked chickpeas or fava beans with the herbs and spices. Not too far from the Neanderthal patty.
What is a Neanderthal patty? Falafel is a middle eastern dish?
In the above linked article from The Guardian, the writer consulted with scientists who found evidence of more complex cooking:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/nov/23/oldest-cooked-leftovers-ever-found-suggest-neanderthals-were-foodies
The scientists found evidence that Neanderthals in northern Iraq soaked legumes and grains and then pounded them together with herbs: “It made a sort of pancake-cum-flatbread which was really very palatable – a sort of nutty taste.” [Boldface mine]
The process for preparing falafel is not all that different: soak beans (fava or chickpea), grind them with herbs and spices, form into a ball or patty, and cook.
Next time I make turkey patties I will add in the veggies and flour. Meatloaf burgers... If I have any, crackers as well.
i took some of my overnight spelt grains, cooked and cooled, and decided to sushitize them. Rolled up a layer on a dry roasted seaweed square with other ingredients (still working on the combination.) but stlill need something to add to keep the grains sticking to each other. Balsamic vinegar tended to loosen them up. Not bad. :)