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Any feedback appreciated on this Bread Machine recipe

jimzenglish's picture
jimzenglish

Any feedback appreciated on this Bread Machine recipe

Hey there I've got a pretty good basic breadmaker recipe but if anyone has any suggestions to improve it would be much appreciated. I'm using the breadmaker because total prep time is 7mins you can't beat that. I know making by hand would produce a better result but I just don't have time to be doing that everyday. I have thought of using the breadmaker to mix & knead the bread and then put in the oven to finish, what are your thoughts on this and does it produce a much better shape/result?

Recipe:

60g ground Oats
40g Wholemeal
250g High Grade White Flour
2 x Tsp Yeast
1 x Tsp Salt
1 x Tbsp Golden Syrup (is Honey better?)
1 x Tbsp Oil (I use Rice Bran Oil is another better?)
260ml Water

Thanks for reading :)

KathyF's picture
KathyF

I use my breadmaker to knead my dough. I actually like using it better than my Kitchen Aid mixer. I prefer to have more control over my final rise and baking time, so I do that part in the oven.

jimzenglish's picture
jimzenglish

Thanks KathyF I think I should give that a go and compare the result

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Colin_Sutton

Hi Jimzenglish, I've had excellent results from the dough cycle of my bread machine(s) and proving in a banneton. There are some great videos on YouTube on shaping dough into boules and bâtards, if you want to go free-form. I'd recommend baking on a pre-heated heavy pizza stone, if you have one.  Happy baking! Colin.

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jimzenglish

Thanks Colin_Sutton I'll give that a go just have to find the right vessel to hold that dough :)

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AbeNW11 (not verified)

You can toast the oats in a dry frying pan before adding them to your recipe. Heat up your frying pan medium/low then add the oats. Stir them often (should only take a few minutes) till you get a nice toasted smell. Careful not to burn them. Will make a nice addition to your bread.

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AbeNW11 (not verified)

I like the idea of honey rather than golden syrup.

There is also another way of making this bread with very small amount of yeast and fermenting it overnight. This long fermentation will bring out great flavour. So something along these lines...

60g ground Oats [Toasted]
40g Wholemeal
250g High Grade White Flour
0.5g yeast [literally tip of a teaspoon]
1 x Tsp Salt
1 x Tbsp Honey
1 x Tbsp Oil (I use Rice Bran Oil is another better?)
260ml Water

Make the dough just before bed then place in oiled bowl and cover. Allow to slowly ferment overnight. Come next morning I think you can get away with up to 12 hours but not sure. try 8 - 10. Should be all nice, bubbly and risen.

Come next morning just proceed onto shaping and final proofing. Final proofing will be around 35-40min but keep an eye on it.

I'm just wondering if you should drop the hydration a tad or not.

 

 

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jimzenglish

Hey thanks AbeNW11 that's an interesting recipe I haven't thought of that before. I'm guessing I could make the dough in the breadmaker before storing overnight. Definitely give this a go and compare the results, thanks.

James

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AbeNW11 (not verified)

Night before on dough only cycle then transfer to a bowl, cover with clingfilm and allow it to ferment overnight. Next morning, when all risen and bubbly, shape into a loaf tin and final proof for 35-40min and bake in preheated oven.

Now this is quite a high hydration recipe. If you're used to doing it on a normal cycle in the breadmaker from start to finish then you might find handling it difficult. If you think this might be the case you can always drop the hydration to 60%

Let me know if you wish for me to work this out for you. 

Also helps to have a scale that can measure out such small amounts of yeast but tip of teaspoon is about right and volume of dough 8-10hours later will be atleast doubled and smell slightly alcoholic as a guide. 

Best of luck. 

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proth5

The above ideas are great. Once you view your bread machine a mixer, you can take your bread in a lot of directions.

No bread made in a bread machine will equal what can be done with hands to fold and shape and an oven to bake.

Ah, but that wonderful "set it an forget it" aspect is lost. In the warmer months I spend a lot of time doing things with "dirt factors" incompatible with a lot of hands on work. And not much beats the feeling of coming in from the field (for me, literally) and coming home to the smell of fresh bread and a house not heated up from the oven.

So, some suggestions for a bread made totally in a bread machine.

  1. Use a pre ferment. This is taking a portion of the flour mixing it with water and a very small amount of yeast (or sourdough starter) and letting it ferment until ripe - usually overnight. I do a recipe where I use a combination of white and whole wheat flours. I use 46% of the weight of my white flour (and an equal amount by weight of water) in an overnight pre ferment. Use the search feature and the tutorial on these pages to learn about pre ferments. It will be well worth your while. This pre ferment is simply added when the water would be added to the bread machine "pan" and away you go.
  2. You may wish to consider increasing the amount of your whole meal flour. I use about 35% of the total flour of whole grain (and this does not include additions like oat flakes or oat flour). This would up your wholemeal flour to about 101 gms and your white flour would decrease to about 188 gms. I have made 100% whole wheat bread in the bread machine (absolutely without the adulteration of vital wheat gluten), but this does require a sourdough pre ferment.
  3. Use honey - or better yet, use a mix of sweeteners. A small portion of blackstrap molasses (or treacle, maybe?) will bring some depth to the flavor.
  4. Butter instead of oil - unless you are vegan.
  5. Substitute triticale flakes for the oats. For that matter, don't grind the oats, use oat flakes - they will incorporate nicely during the initial pause cycle without grinding them. (Triticale - now we are headed near the rabbit hole...)
  6. Fresh grind your whole wheat. (And now we've gone down the rabbit hole.)

The biggest change you can make is a pre ferment, you will find it changes many things in your bread.

 

Have fun!

 

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jimzenglish

Thanks proth5 that's some good advice. I haven't even thought of (or heard of) a pre ferment, I'll definitely give that a test to compare. Also I think you're right on the wholemeal portion I'll increase that.

Yes also agree on the honey or mix, I might go a honey/golden syrup combination. Not a fan of the treacle myself I've tested that one.

Thanks again

James