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My first Yeast Water loaf

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justkeepswimming

My first Yeast Water loaf

Things have cooled down just a bit the last few days, enough to make cooking more pleasant. This loaf is based on Trailrunner/Caroline's WW YW Pullman 13" bread. As Caroline mentions, this is a spin off of Danayo's 1-rise only bread. I scaled Caroline's recipe down a bit for use in my 9 in Pullman pan, and made just a few substitutions:

235 gm AP (Bob's Red Mill organic)

235 fresh milled Central Milling hard red spring wheat

50 gm KA Semolina that I ran through the Mockmill x2 to get it finer. No idea if that will work, but it was what I had on hand. 

20 gm fresh milled rye

280-325 gm water (100 gm of the water was yeast water)

34 gm each honey, EVOO, buttermilk (the real, cultured stuff) = 102 gm Trinity

9 gm salt

1 slightly rounded tsp of diastatic malt powder (none of these flours are malted, and the YW is pretty new. Not sure how strong it is and figured the wee beasties wouldn't mind a little extra help.)

126 gm active YW levain

Process: 

 Friday morning:

 - 7:20 a.m. Mixed 23 gm each of YW and flour (50:50 BRM AP and whole wheat) and put it out in the garage for 4 hours (temp 82 degrees). This is what it looked like at ~ 3:00. Probably not super strong yet, but it still smelled fresh and got there eventually. 

 

3:20 pm Mixed everything above. Mixed until everything was well incorporated, covered and rested 1 hour. Then mixed in a Bosch compact mixer for ~ 7 minutes. While the dough was mixing, I prepped the Pullman pan with some baking spray and previously used parchment paper. This spray has always served me well, nothing ever seems to stick when I use it. Still, parchment paper gives that extra layer of insurance. ;)

 

I had pondered holding back some of the water but my flour is always so thirsty in our dry climate that I decided to just go all in. Might not have been my best decision..... The dough was quite slack. Better than batter, but shaping wasn't going to happen. Good thing this is a loaf pan formula! I did about 50 slap and folds on the counter and that helped bring the dough together a little better. (It always amazes me how those help!) I schlorped the dough on to the parchment paper and used it as a sling to put it into the pan. DT was 78F. (Note to self - use a little less water!)

 

After 3.5 hours on the counter. The clips serve 2 purposes: they keep the parchment from flopping onto the dough, and also keep my trusty shower cap cover from touching the dough. Sorry for the blurry pic:

 

 - Saturday morning. We needed bread for lunch, and I was not willing to wait any longer. Preheated the oven to 375F and once it had been at temperature for about 15 minutes, I pulled the dough out of the fridge. This is after 13 hours in the fridge:

 

Baked at 375F for 30 min with the lid on, then 20 min with the lid off. The crust was still not quite our preferred color and the internal loaf temp was a bit cooler than usual so it got an additional 5 min in the oven. So total bake time was 55 min, right on par with how long most of my loaves take. 

After cooling for 2.5 hours, we needed lunch! It left a little gummy residue on the knife, but it was still just a little warm. No gumminess today, thankfully. 

 

The flavor is soooo good! Creamy, sort of yogurty but not quite. Definitely not the bland flavor I associate with a simple yeast based loaf. This one will definitely go into my regular rotation! It's an easy, no-muss-no-fuss loaf. Hubby liked it too - he doesn't often comment on the flavor 2 days in a row, and this loaf received that praise. I may increase the amount of whole grains next time.

Thanks again, Caroline and Abe, for all your help getting me to this point!!

Mary 

Comments

Abe's picture
Abe

These breads to have something extra that [commercial] yeasted breads don't. They have that something extra which makes it more moreish. 

That is a very lovely bake. Looks delicious. 

And I can't recommend enough Hamelman's Swiss Farmhouse Bread. If you try it then toast the walnuts. 

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justkeepswimming

Thanks Abe! And a good description.... more moreish. 

I just bookmarked the Community Bake for that bread. I'll definitely toast the walnuts, that sounds wonderful! 

Mary 

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trailrunner

Great job Mary! Just seeing this. The crumb looks so pretty. I am glad you had such a great first experience. 

I have a few suggestions and you can use them or not but since I have done all of the things above that you did I can speak to them and you can then see what you think with future bakes. 

I never use Diastatic malt no matter what the type of grain/flour I am using. It has the very bad habit of turning dough to "slack goo" no matter how little you use. You can convert it to Non-Diastatic it will act as a sugar and browning agent only  and no goo factor. All you do is spread it out on parchment on a baking sheet and bake at 325 for 5 minutes. Watch it and it turns golden and deactivates the enzymes. It works great then as an additive to dough. Store tightly covered.

The minimal hands experience for this dough would have you do your mixing till all combined and leaving it as you did to rest approx 30 min. Then you would do some folds and let rest and do another set of folds and that is all also a lamination if you want . No Bosch etc. The Diastatic Malt was much more likely to have caused your slack than the water. 

You can then either do a bulk ferment and then place in a well buttered Pullman no spray or paper needed if you use the butter and it gives the most gorgeous flavor or you can place the dough directly in the Pullman and let it rise to within 2 ridges of the top and bake then or cover and retard and bake the next day. 

No hands or mixer needed and the flavor and crumb will be exactly the same without all the other. 

Most of all . HAVE FUN !  You have done an amazing job with your first YW. c

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justkeepswimming

Thank you!!! I just mixed up a YW levain this morning, with plans to repeat this formula using different grains. (Side note - One of the side benefits of lockdown was discovering the pleasure of a) making bread, and b) home milling, how different grains bring new flavors to bread.)

Really good to know about the DM, as well as using/not using the mixer. I sometimes opt to use it to develop gluten a bit up front, because life demands I step away rather than be available to do any S&Fs. I do like the tangible feedback S&Fs give during the whole process. 

This is most definitely fun! Even when a loaf doesn't turn out, my approach has been to learn why it happened, eat the evidence, and bake again. ♥️

Mary 

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trailrunner

My arthritis in my hands has greatly limited the hands on time. The benefit of just literally folding round and round a few time in the bowl with a large rubber spatula is so amazing, All the effort on getting it into a bowl and using the mixer and then untangling the dough and \or having it too dry or too wet etc and then still doing folds...nope nope. Since those of us followed Dan's idea it's so much less time and almost no touch. You saw my crumb on all the breads I linked that are pullman. The crumb is the same if a mixer was used as if the dough was just dumped into the pan and no mixer a couple folds no bulk just put it in the pan and let 'er go. 

So glad you are enjoying the journey and most definitely learning as you go Gluten is a funny thing. It's able to do it's thing without any interference from us lowly humans LOL !!!  Keep baking and posting !! c

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justkeepswimming

So sorry re the arthritis, but glad you found work arounds that let you keep baking! And not just baking any old white bread, making seriously yummy ones.

I'm not too far behind you on the arthritis front.... The hands are still ok, but several other joints are definitely slowing certain things down a bit. I donated our Dutch Oven and a few other things that are heavier than I am comfortable using for similar reasons. ♥️

My first exposure to taking a minimalist approach was from idaveindy here on TFL. (He hasn't posted in quite some time.)  Dave mentioned Steve Gamelin's videos in passing, and I went searching. Steve's early (? first) video was a basic no knead yeast loaf pan bread, a really easy starting point for people who are new to bread making. He has quite a few videos now. They are so easy that my then 91 y.o. mil made her first loaf using Steve's video! She's 95 now and doesn't cook very often, but will still make a loaf once in a while. I suspect seeing a white haired man wearing a Carhartt T-shirt making bread made the whole thing a lot less intimidating, lol. 

Mary 

 

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trailrunner

I taught my Mom to make my Challah recipe in her Cuisinart .That was in the 80's . Dad bought her the Cuisinart with my help picking it out in the 70's. She was a great cook but had never made bread. I'm still using mine I bought back then and my daughter is using my Mom's. I had my MIL's that we bought her and gave it  to my son and DIL after she died  but they ruined it a few years ago . Our two are still working great. My Dad loved homemade bread . He always said it had " substance " ! Back then I was just making yeast bread with those Fleishman packets LOL . 

I'm fortunate that the arthritis is only in my hands and I can still do almost everything but twist lids and squeeze things. I mow and edge and lift weights and run and bike long distance and none of that is affected. I have my Mock Mill at waist height in a cupboard so I can lift it straight out. My KA is on the bottom but I manage, 

I look forward to more of your bakes c

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Benito

Well done Mary, that loaf looks amazing.  So glad that yeast water worked so well for you.

Benny