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100% Levain No-Handling Bread

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tpassin

100% Levain No-Handling Bread

I have always been intrigued by the hole structure visible through the sides of a starter container when the starter is well-developed. There is a wide range of hole sizes from very large to very small. Once the starter has been scooped out and mixed with the other dough ingredients, that structure is gone. Wouldn't it be interesting to capture it, bake that starter as is, freeze that foam as it were?

That's what I have done with this bake.  I mixed up the dough - which is really the same as the starter, so 100% levain - scraped it into a small loaf pan, and let it ferment for a long time.  Then I baked it right in its pan with no other handling.

The result astonished me.  The crumb had that hole structure that I hoped to capture.  It was delicate yet elastic, soft yet firm at the same time. The crust was thin and crackled when bitten without shedding many crumbs or flakes.  The flavor was wonderfully rich and even though the ferment was long (10 hours at 75 °F room temperature) any sourdough tang was so restrained that it blended into the overall taste without standing out on its own. This bread seems different from any other bread I have tasted in an ethereal, almost indescribable way. You are almost eating foam, but unlike so many commercial breads it is not at all like cotton or cardboard.

The starter is my current pet formulation: 90% hydration, bread flour, 1% salt. This combination continues to rise for 10 - 12 hours after mixing, more than triples in size, exhibits large and varying hole structure, and after it peaks does not collapse and remains usable for many more hours.  I usually refresh once a day before bedtime and use it the next day in late morning or early afternoon.  For this bake the starter included 10% atta flour.  I think this makes for a richer flavor without affecting the other properties.  I also have been adding a small amount of rye bran.  Neither are necessary but I like the combination.  The rye bran stiffens up the starter a little and may add a little extra lactic acid bacteria.  I have a lot of rye bran left over from sifting it out from some stone-ground rye flour earlier this year.

The dough is the same mix as the starter except for having 2% salt instead of 1%. It's sticky and paste-like. I wanted to use a small loaf pan for this first experiment, in case the dough couldn't support the full height of a 4X4 Pullman pan. So I used my 3 X 3 X 8.5 inch small one. Typically I would use 450g of flour to fill the larger pan. The smaller one has about half the volume. I used 300g of flour, and divided it so that the dough filled up the pan to about 1/3 height, and the rest served as my starter refreshment.

I let the dough ferment in the Pullman pan for 10 hours.  It had risen to just a hair below the top of the pan, and the plastic wrap covering it stuck in places.  The wrap was hard to get off without tearing up the top of the dough but I managed.  Next time I should spray the wrap.

I preheated the oven to 450°F and and reduced to 425°F for the bake. I baked the loaf without the lid on the Pullman pan. At 35 minutes the interior of the loaf had gotten to 208°F and I ended the bake. The color could have used some improvement, and the next time I will apply an egg wash to the top and bake the loaf outside the pan for a few more minutes.

As for oven spring, I didn't expect much since the dough was already so expanded. In the end the loaf rose a little above the top of the pan.  Since the bread held up during baking, I'm planning to try a larger pan next time.  I could also have fermented it even longer which would have given even larger pores.

How is this bread different from a typical no-knead bread? Zero-handling, that's how. For a typical no-knead dough you mix up a wet dough (never with such a high hydration), refrigerate it, cut off a hunk when you want to bake, and shape it. With this bread you mix the dough and plop it into the pan, just like a quick bread.

I will admit that my enthusiasm is based on sampling it too soon after baking, only 1 1/2 hours.  A small loaf like this will cool down quicker than a larger one but this one still felt a little delicate.  So it's possible that the crumb might seem less ethereal later on.  It's been a fascinating experiment even if that happens.

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trailrunner

This is like the wet batter Pullman  loaf that I’ve been making since 2022 and posted about . I can’t find the original that either you or Paul said watch for the first bubble in the Pullman pan and immediately retard or bake so it doesn’t over proof. I make it often stir it up and place immediately in the well buttered Pullman . I use a lid so I make sure and not put it on until I’m ready to bake so it doesn’t stick. Been there done that. If you use the shower cap covering it won’t stick to the dough as it’s fermenting. Beautiful crumb and flavor. We love it with smoked trout 👍

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tpassin

It must have been Paul who said that about the bubbles.  I just went by time and expansion.  I had the rest of the dough rising in its own container as starter, and that basically acted like an aliquot jar so I could double-check my impressions.

I'd been wanting to try something like this for ages. I used to bulk ferment in a 4-qt Pyrex mixing bowl.  I would look at the sides and see those bubbles and think about sticking the bowl right in the oven.  But I didn't have confidence that it wouldn't break and I never got around to trying it.

And yes, I have a shower cap  - I just didn't realized I'd need it.

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trailrunner

I looked back in my blog. Your loaf is beautiful. It’s so easy and fun to stir it up and be done. I’ve used my Trinity and YW and all kinds of flour. Every loaf has been perfect. I have even mixed up a double batch put 1/2 in my Pullman and the other 1/2 retard . I don’t have a 2nd Pullman. I bake the first loaf  when it’s ready then take out the retarded batter and put it in the Pullman let rise and bake it . Worked great . Hope Dan Ayo sees this he was actually the initiator of the batter Pullman in 2022 I looked back at my notes. c 

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tpassin

Caroline, could post the link for your loaf?  Thanks!

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tpassin

Great, have already been enjoying them.

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JonJ

Just lovely Tom, in all respects. You've inspired me to give this a go when I get back. 

Tell me, what was your feed ratio for the final dough, about 1:10:10?

-Jon

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tpassin

Thanks, Jon!

- 60g - starter (90% hydration)
- 300g - flour
- 270g - water
- 6.5g - salt

So 1: 5: 4.5 (starter: flour: water).

This is the same ratio as I had refreshed the starter with the night before.  I knew that this starter usually keeps rising for about 12 hours on my bench so I figured the final dough/levain/starter (whatever you want to call it) would take the same time.  I actually baked it after 10 hours because I didn't want to take a chance on it falling during the bake, and it did not.  The small portion of the dough which I saved as my refreshed starter kept rising for another 3 hours.

Yes, give it a try.  I don't know how you could do anything easier, and I love the result.  Caroline will tell you the same.

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trailrunner

I used to use the KA to mix but now I just fold in the bowl to get it all mixed and let it autolyse for 30-60 min and fold again and then into the pan. Make sure it is very well buttered and the lid as well if using. Adds tremendous flavor and the bread slides right out and the crust is lovely as well. 

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tpassin

I just made a variant with some rye and some atta flour in it - full size 4X4X9 pan -  and the butter was a pleasant extra.

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JonJ

Thanks Tom, have now given it a try:

Super easy to make. About 10% wholewheat. Used less 'starter' in mine, so gave it 12 hours before baking.

Thanks again for sharing Tom, I didn't know about this kind of bread until I saw your post.

-Jon

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tpassin

Look at that beauty! Have you sampled it yet? All of mine have been very tasty without being too sour despite the long fermentation time.

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JonJ

The taste of the 100% levain bread was good, my son remarked on the taste, and it has a crackly crust too.

I'd definitely make it again, mainly because it was so easy!

By the way, I used only about 10g of starter for the 330 or so grams of flour, so a much lower ratio as that was all I had to hand. I guess that such a high ratio makes the timings difficult to get right, and my starter is a bit strange in that this was already revived 'crumbs' from my semi-dehydrated starter that were sitting in my fridge waiting to be used for a couple of days. I do believe this partial dehydration and revival does perhaps give the starter a little bit of a boost too, but it helps that I have a proofer that kept it nice and warm at 27C as well which enables such a small amount of starter to be used.

-Jon

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tpassin

Easy and good, a winning combination!

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justkeepswimming

What a fun experiment! It looks great. It has been a bit warm for baking the last few days (frying pan bread to the rescue!), but I may give this a try soon. 

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trailrunner

Don’t hesitate to experiment with combo of grains and don’t forget the Trinity add ins . Tom linked to me the article on fats added to the dough. The yogurt and EVOO I add does the trick as far as texture. This makes a terrific bread . 

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tpassin

Caroline, many readers won't know what you mean by your "Trinity".  I remember you spelled it out in one of your posts.  Could you add a link to it?

The post on oils is here: https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/24906/30-rye-sourdough-sandwich-loaf-yes-even-rye-breads-can-be-fluffy-and-soft  Search this thread for comments by gary.turner.

Basically, the effect of added oils is variable and the lowest loaf volumes are produced with 2% oil. 5% or even 10% produce better volume.  Polar oils, which include butter, are best for volume.

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JonJ

Caroline's wonderful holy trinity is Honey/Olive-oil/Buttermilk in equal parts!

Now I've got to do a Tom 100% with these too!

-Jon

Edit: it looks her ratio in that post was 42g olive oil/approx 830g flours = 5%. And the buttermilk is there too, so that would make it 10%, right?

 

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tpassin

Well, the buttermilk will be mostly water with some milk solids and fat, so probably not close to 10%.  More than 5%, anyway. That's right there in the desired range.

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trailrunner

Again at the article but it definitely is a dough improver and I’ve been doing it with pretty much every formula I come across. I just reduce the water by the amount of liquid Trinity . I usually use 30g each so 90g total for 1000 g mixed flours. But I have gone as high as 45 g each with no ill effects. Have fun experimenting! 

Im probably dense but why is it called 100% levain? Referring to hydration or? c 

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tpassin

Oh, that "100% levain" was just a fancy of mine.  I was thinking how a recipe will often have you build a levain from starter and then combine that levain with more flour and water.  You would say a recipe has e.g. 35% levain the in the final dough.  In these breads it's all levain.

Or you could say you bake them from bulk, but that doesn't have any zing to it.  "Bulk baked bread"? Doesn't work for me.

I almost want to call these breads "long-fermented quick breads". What do you think?

TomP

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trailrunner

How about Slow Quick Bread!! 😳

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tpassin

I feel like we're circling around a really good name, if only someone hits on it.