Hello. New member and possible recent Hobart C-210 owner
Hello. I just wanted to introduce myself, I've lurked on here several times before over the years and actually thought I had an account but it's been so infrequent that I looked on here, that if I did have an account at one time, I don't remember what it was so I just made a new one today. So a little about me, I was raised in cooking I guess because of my parents being Italian and my uncle owning a restaurant when I was a little. By the time I was 15 years old I was working in restaurants as a dishwasher and sometimes prep cook, even been a server when necessary.. I worked in restaurants till I was about 20 something but it was always just a means to an end, a way to make money while I was going to school for something else. I should have stuck with culinary but never did. I did however take a vocational course in baking and pastry arts because I figured I had everything down pat but that part. Oddly enough shortly after I finish that program I never did any professional baking other than the occasional round loaf. Although since most of the restaurants I worked in there was always a form of pizza being served I am very familiar with making pizza dough using the Hobart machines anyway, fast forward till today. Not working much at all if any and was recommended by many people who know me that I should start making things to sell at a couple of the close farmers markets. Maybe 2 days a week. Anyway I looked into it big time and the easiest and least amount of business costs and inspection requirements would be to sell breads. Apparently here in New York state it's actually a very small fee to the state to have a home baking business that sells non-perishable baked goods, which there's a whole list of what that entails but I'm not going to get too specific with it. Types of bread that don't have any fruit or vegetables added are okay. I've always had a huge affinity for vintage appliances stoves and whatnot, and although I've never owned anything more than a k 45a mixer, it's way too small for me to do anything significant without spending a couple of days to prepare for one morning of sales of a small amount of bread. I always wanted to rent a c100 around Easter time to make the traditional Italian Easter bread of my family and around that time is when I looked into even purchasing one. I kicking myself now for not buying one of the many Hobart C10 and c210 that I used to see for sale on Craigslist a dozen years ago for less than $100 because they're all gone now. I'm on the lookout for 10 quart mixer and there's nothing under a grand except for a C10 mixer that's about 9 hour drive away and a c210 mixer that is about a 4-Hour Drive away. The C10 comes with just a paddle and dough hook and nothing else, and is being offered for 300 or best offer. It also has a lot of little rust spots at the seams and were screws attached . Nothing major but just rust stains to the white paint job of it. The c210 machine is being offered for $650 and comes with a bowl and J-dough hook. The paint job is red, and it looks like it was done with a brush but I don't see any rust spots on it, and the bowl has been listed as "more recently retinned". Also the dough hookers a unique one that I've never seen before. It looks like a thinner piece of bent round bar, very different than what I normally see at J hook looks like. Anyway I think I might get that one if the seller ever responds to me again, because I only ever got a response a week ago when I asked if it was still available and the seller responded with yes. I responded since to try to make arrangements for one that's available for me to come look at it and that was almost a week to today and haven't heard from him yet. Whereas the seller for the C10 which is further away cheaper and needs a bowl and a hook only sent me a response saying just make an offer, the machine turns on and seems to run well. Tells me he wants to get rid of it and has never used it before.
So that's my story. I thought I knew a lot about the Hobart machines, but the one thing I don't know is what is the difference between the C10 and the c210? Nobody's ever been able to tell me, so if anybody out there knows what it is please respond I would love to hear it. As far as I can tell they're the same machine. At first I used to believe that maybe one was fitted with a 110 volt motor and the other one was with a 210 volt motor but I always see them with the household plug end attached so maybe that's not true. Although I've never had a chance to see one up close and really examine the motor. Many of the old Motors that were 210 were also capable of working with 110 so I still may be right. But again it's just a guess I've never seen any documentation or anybody who's had documentation regarding the machines. Couple of posts I found in the archives around the forums show people posting that they have a manual or some sort of paperwork on the machines and I was never able to get any replies from them or working links but hey still interested. Also would love to hear from anybody who's also into vintage appliances of any kind, I'm definitely a buff and love to talk to people about it even fixing them.
I guess I should also mention that I ended up going the route of architectural and Engineering school. I am very familiar with fabrication and metal work, although I don't do much myself. I have brothers who work with CNC machines as well as 3D printers. My older brother is a teacher who uses those equipment and my other older brother worked at a factory operating such equipment. So if I ever needed a part mailed out of aluminum my one brother told me if I just gave him the file to print something or to carve something that he would run it for me but I wouldn't be allowed to come into the school to use equipment. Anyway that's me, I probably should have started out by saying that I've always worked on cars and fix things since I was a little kid. I like working and repairing things and for a while had a hobby of helping friends who were into vintage appliances fix old stoves and other appliances. Currently I actually have a six burner Crown Princess double oven stove in storage as well as a vintage Waterman apartment size or Deco stove from the 30s. Both eating some sort of restoration but I am and have to get rid of them soon because I always plan on having a home that I could install them in but it looks like I'm never going to have my own home so those might end up getting sold, if I could find somebody. I remember there was a trend about 10 years ago of a lot of people intervintage things and I was actually instrumental in helping people find stoves that were getting thrown away or giving away on listings or heck even on the side of the road. I knew a person to send them to the restore these things and I would get a small if anything finders fee, but more often than not just a thank you. I just didn't want a lot of these old beautiful things to go into dumpsters or anywhere. And it turned out a few of them actually ended up doing such because a few of the kitchens I helped people get these great appliances until they ended up having to throw them away I found out years later because they sold their home and the real estate agent required them to have a new Appliance and since they couldn't take the old one with them they just had it removed when the boring new one was installed. One person I was able to speak to about it and she said that for a short time while the house is listed she had to use the new stove and didn't realize how much worse modern appliances were.
So if you made it this far, you're a trooper. I hope I didn't for you too much but this is an introduction Board of the Forum so that was me introducing myself.
So if anybody else wants to talk about anything from recipes, to baked goods, to appliances, to cars, coffee machines or coffee, I'm your guy. Feel free to message me for any type of Chit Chat that you feel like.
....... oh yeah I forgot one last thing about me. I'm very knowledgeable photography. Yeah I've always thought of art as a way to keep myself sane and as an outlet growing up in school. So I used to do some painting and airbrush work and photography. I think I was 12 years old when I first started using a dark room, I think maybe a year or so before then I had my first SLR film camera. And to the point that I was always taken photography courses in college to keep me sane. First what I was going for my architectural degree, I would take those photography courses as electives and took quite a few. So many to the point when I went back to school for my engineering degree, I had to get special permission because the upper level photography courses which we're the only ones I hadn't taken, were reserved for the photography majors, so I needed somebody to write off and it was actually better because they would only allow me to take the night courses because the dean told me he wanted to leave the day courses open for the majors. And that actually was better in my opinion because I got to work with the adjunct professors were often professionals teaching just the one class. So yeah, I know a lot about photography and whenever I saw a good cheap deal on equipment I'd grab it, at a garage sale or something. Oddly enough I have a portable Studio that I've never used. And probably wouldn't now because the fabric backdrop went missing a long time ago, and the paper roll one, which is referred to as seamless backdrop is disintegrated.
If you look, there is a small difference in the motors. In particularly - switch location + power entering the motor. I suspect there may also be a variation in bearing/oil ports but can't confirm.
The big variations to this Hobart model (the main body and transmission) happened with them over seas. The CE-100 has the better casting of the OS models. The CM-10 is the beast of the lineup - which is why it needed so much more mass added to the feet to support the motor. The CM's motor is so over-scaled they even needed to cast a super long attachment hub to get it past the motor.