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help with pan de mie!

ittehbittehkitteh's picture
ittehbittehkitteh

help with pan de mie!

I know this is going to sound like a really stupid question, but I'll ask it anyway.  I've made yeast breads before, but unfortunately I am good at making a loaf of sandwich bread (the ones that are square/rectangular in shape).

I know many recipes for a loaf-type of bread (again the square/rectangular shape) the recipe typically instructs you to form it into log shape then fold the dough. I am horrible with this.

If I am using a pullman loaf and/or a pan de mie loaf tin, do I have to go thru all of this, or can I just put the dough into the loaf tin as is without shaping it prior to putting it in the tin?

 

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GregS

Hi Kitteh,

Perhaps not as scary as you imagine. Here's how I do it: Gently dump the bulk-risen dough on a lightly floured surface then gently pat it into a rough square about the width of your pan. Using the sides of both hands lift the back edge of the dough and begin rolling it towards you. Roll tightly enough to avoid any air gaps between layers, but don't squash the dough. When the rolling is complete, pinch the final edge into the dough to seal the seam.

If the roll is too long or short for your pan, you can lay both hands on top of the dough and roll it towards and away from you while gently moving  your floured hands towards (shorter) or away (longer) from each other. To finish the ends, I like to do a sort of gentle karate chop with the edge of my palm, stretching the top layers to the counter then pressing firmly to seal them. Finish by tucking the squished ends under where the seam is and pinching to seal them.

Finally, lift the roll into the pan with both hands, seam side down. If the roll doesn't fit nicely into the corners,You can gently push along the axis of the roll until it "flows" into the corner. (I just realized how many times I've said "gently". My purpose is to avoid smashing down all the little bubbles in the dough). A final little tip: Put your pan near the dough while  you are creating the initial square and the final roll. Eyeball the width you need so you are close to the right length when you plop it in the pan.

I hope I haven't over-explained, but I find pan shaping contributes to the nice final look of a well done dough. Good luck!

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Ford

Bread is trouble to make, and it also takes patience.  All of that folding, stretching, and shaping is that which orients the molecules so that they hold the loaf together.  With pain de mie it is especially important due to the extra rising necessary to make the loaf so light.  Good luck!

Ford

ittehbittehkitteh's picture
ittehbittehkitteh

Thank you for the responses. 

Greg S regarding the post you made I have a question....

Here is a video I found that shows how to shape the bread before it goes into the loaf tin (the link is listed below)

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/videos/bread-101-basic-white-bread-kneading-techniques

 

Does it pretty much sound similar to what you were trying to describe with the procedure of how to shape a loaf?

ittehbittehkitteh's picture
ittehbittehkitteh

Yeah, Greg IGNORE THE FIRST LINK....it's not the video I was referring to...I thought it was.....but it turns out it was the wrong video...

Here is the link for the video I'm talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGb-hwg2OaU

 

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GregS

Glad you found the visual demo. That doesn't look so awful does it? I s'pose just dumping it in would work in a way; but you'll find that many of us on TFL make bread as a craft, or a hobby, or even an art!. You can get into the flour as shallow or as deep as you like! Have fun.