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browndog

What About You?

I want to spring-clean and have some fun--will you guys join me? Sometimes in intros people will share what started them down our common floury path, but I'd love to hear it from everyone--how did you first get in to bread baking? My own story is unremarkable, it was the 70's, I was a young hippie-wanna-be and had just gone vegetarian, which meant raiding my very lean discretionary fund piggy-bank for a copy of --wait for it--Diet For A Small Planet. Back then it was common 'knowledge' that good bread was plant or dairy protein and fiber glued together with a little spit...amazingly my interest transcended the experience, and 30 years out I'm learning new and reassessing or even deleting much of my old bread 'dogma'...thanks to you all.

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Tam1024

Starter won't double itself

I am trying to nurse my sick starter back to health and not getting the results I want.  About 10 days ago I started a vigorous attempt to revive my barely living starter.  I have been using 1/4 c. of starter, 3/4 c. flour and 1/2 c. water. I let it sit out for 12 hours and then refridgerate it for the next 12 hours. I then repeat the process day after day.   The starter has progressed some.  12 hours after feeding it has not doubled but has risen maybe half it's size.  It usually has very vigorous bubbles on the surface and 1/4 of the way down but not throughout.  What can I try to get it to double.  Any sugguestions?

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smartdog

Square Challah Loaf

This is my fourth challah. I decided to stray from the traditional braid "out of a pan" to braiding first, then letting it rise in the pullman pan today. I am pleased so far. It's hot out of the oven, so I will post the cut picture later this evening. ;)

 Challah loaf

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zainaba22

Zainab's flat Bread

Makes 16 flat Bread

1 Kilos flour,unbleached,whole wheat,or a mixture of the two

1 teaspoon salt

1 teaspoon sugar

1 Tablespoon yeast

1 Tablespoon Baking powder

2 cups water

5 Tablespoons oil

1)place all ingredients in the bowl of mixer ,beat 10 minutes to make a soft dough.

2)cover,let rise in warm place until doubled in size ,about 1 hour.

3)Divide dough into 16 pieces. Roll each to a 20 cm round.

4) preheat the oven to 550 degrees. i do not  have a baking stone,so i use the grill pan

5) Bake for 1 minute per side.

6)Open the oven and place the flat Bread on the hot baking surface. They should be  puffy after 1 minute.

 

Zainab's  flat Bread+Arabic flat Bread

zainab

http://arabicbites.blogspot.com/

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zainaba22

Arabic flat Bread

Makes 12 flat Bread

500 g flour,unbleached,whole wheat,or a mixture of the two

4 Tablespoons powdered milk

4 Tablespoons sugar

4 Tablespoons oil

1 Tablespoon yeast

1 Tablespoon Baking powder

1 teaspoon salt

1 1\2 cups water

1)place all ingredients in the bowl of mixer ,beat 10 minutes to make a soft dough.

2)cover,let rise in warm place until doubled in size ,about 1 hour.

3)Divide dough into 12 pieces. Roll each to a 20 cm round.

4) preheat the oven to 550 degrees. i do not  have a baking stone,so i use the grill pan

5) Bake for 1 minute per side.

6)Open the oven and place the flat Bread on the hot baking surface. They should be  puffy after 1 minute.

* They taste okay the next day, With just  20-30 seconds in the microwave.

zainab

http://arabicbites.blogspot.com/

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zainaba22

No-Knead Bread with bulgur wheat

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HokeyPokey

Failing! - What am I doing wrong?

I’ve been trying NYT no-knead recipe following JMonkey sourdough version, and a breadtopia version from http://www.breadtopia.com/sourdough-no-knead-method/ and its failing miserably.

 

I tried Jim’s recipe tonight - http://home.att.net/~carlsfriends/jimpics/Instructions.html

– same result.

 

I am using Organic White flour from Shipton Mill, measuring 140-150g to a cup, and a 100% white starter (tried rye/wholemeal – with no improvements)

 

NY dough is VERY wet, and I am only using 1.5 cups of water.

I leave it for 18 hours (but see bubbles after 12) at a room temperature, shape and lease to rise for another 2-2.5 hours in a warm place. And it really sticks to a towel – I am using a lot of flour, but it seems to absorb it all.

I managed to get it into my hot hot Le Cruset pot and bake as per recipe.

It has absolutely no oven spring, but a nice crust and a very sour taste (which my husband likes).

 

Jim’s recipe – mixed it well, left for an hour – did the French fold – worked beautifully! 18 hours later, the dough is very wet again, had lots of troubles shaping it into a ball. Left for a final rise in a warm place – really flat, and not much volume, even though, its been sitting for an hour and a half at least. Took at least 5 min to transfer it to a baking stone – baked to 40 mins – flat and no over spring – another disaster!

 

Please help, what am I doing wrong?

 

 First mix

01 Mix

 After 18 hours

02 after 18 hours

 Folding

Folding 

 The result

 

  

 

 

 

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Kjknits

There's no place like home...

...to get a good pizza, that is. I joined this forum a few days ago and mentioned that I make pizzas, and a few fellow bakers asked for photos and my recipes. When I first started making pizzas several years ago, I used a dough recipe from the Silver Palate New Basics. But, the baked dough was very doughy and bready, not at all what I wanted in a pizza. I prefer it to be somewhat on the thin side, crisp on the outside, chewy on the inside, and blistered all over with tiny bubbles on the surface of the crust. That's how the dough at our local delivery place is, and I love it (but their toppings are never right and I hate their sauce, hence the necessity to make my own). Anyway, a few weeks ago I was googling pizza dough recipes and found PR's Neo-Neapolitan right here at The Fresh Loaf. What a difference that all-day, cold fermentation makes! The crust on my pizzas that night was exactly how I liked it, with full flavor to boot. So now I have a real "new basic" dough recipe. For sauce, I always take a 28 oz can of tomato puree, stir in a little minced garlic (the microplane is great for that), fresh basil, oregano and parsley (or dried if I don't have fresh on hand), a bay leaf, and some freshly-ground black pepper. Bring just to a boil, then lower to low and simmer, covered, for up to 20 minutes or so. This makes plenty of sauce, enough for at least 4-6 13" pizzas. And don't forget to remove the bay leaf. Here's one of the pizzas I made last night:
And here's a close-up of the crust:

I prefer plain cheese pizza, with mozz and parm regg. But my husband likes them loaded. Last night he had a few slices from the one pictured, with cheese, pepperoni, and ham. It was good!

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JMonkey

TattooedTonka and JMonkey's Epic Starter Catching Tandem Trial

Well, I said I'd make this later tonight, but I didn't exactly expect it to be this late. Ah well, it'll still be "later today" for about 20 minutes.

Anyway, here's what I propose, TT.

  1. Let's use SourdoLady's method, with just a few caveats.
  2. If you've got scales, I'd prefer to use equal weights of flour and liquid ... say 1 ounce flour and 1 ounce water instead of 2 Tbs.
  3. If you don't have scales, no biggie -- we'll just follow SourdoLady's measures.
  4. My grocery store doesn't have pineapple juice so far as I know, so would it be alright to go with orange juice?
  5. I'll use freshly ground flour, as that's all I've got. Hope you don't mind, but since I've got the grains here, I'd rather not go out an buy a bag. What brand will you be using? If you can find fresh-ground flour, that'd probably help, but it's not necessary. I didn't use fresh-ground for either of the starters I made. I've got a whole wheat starter that I began with rye for the first three days and then switched to white flour -- I converted to whole wheat a few months later. That's Arthur the Whole Wheat Starter. Rhonda Rye is a pure rye starter.
  6. How about we start Saturday morning and we'll just post our pictures and commentary here. Sound good?
  7. Would you rather start with rye, whole wheat or whole spelt? I can do any of the above, though my preference would be whole wheat.
  8. Let's stick with whole grains until we're sure we've got something going. I think we'll have an easier time of it and, once we're sure the culture is alive, we can convert to white flour.


Sound good? I'm rarin' to go!
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soupcxan

How to get apple flavor in yeasted bread?

I threw some bread together with following ingredients, and while it turned out just fine, I can't detect even a hint of apple flavor in the result. The loaf that came out is tasty with a bit of sweetness...but why don't I taste any apple? And how much apple would I have to add to get it? I'm not looking for a thick chunky apple bread leavened with baking powder, but a light sandwich loaf with a little apple flavor. Appreciate any thoughts you have.

  • 16 oz unbleached flour
  • 1 whole apple, peeled and cored, then finely grated
  • 6 oz 2% milk
  • 2 tbsp butter
  • 1 tbsp honey
  • 2.5 tsp instant yeast
  • 2 tsp kosher salt

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