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junehawk

Pugliese

Hi. 

 

I did a search for this but didn't find relevant information.  I am making pugliese for the first time, following The Bread Bible's recipe called Brianna's Pugliese.  The Kitchenaid is kneading right now but the dough seems very wet. It's not coming off the sides of the bowl at all and I'm wondering if this is normal.  The recipe says the dough will be very sticky but I'm not sure if it's supposed to be THIS sticky.  Any info would be greatly appreciated!

 

June 

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PaddyL

Wow, oven spring!

Absolutely magnificent oven spring on my two totally-commercial-yeast-free panned white loaves still in the oven!  I know "oven spring" can be overrated, but I never expected any and I've got it anyway.  Also my experiment with the buttermilk plant was successful and I have a good supply of buttermilk, though it's a little thin; I'm going to try some scones with it tonight.  I refreshed that with some reconstituted skim milk powder and it's sitting in the warmest place in the house, on top of the fridge.  I never would have tried the buttermilk plant if I hadn't got into sourdough, and it was the people here who inspired me, so a big thank you to TheFreshLoaf!

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dmsnyder

Kneading surface

I currently knead dough, form loaves, etc. on a silicon mat placed on my tile kitchen counter. I've been looking at a jazzy pastry board made of hardwood. But, I already have a marble slab I use for pastry.

 Is there any down side to using the marble surface for working with bread dough? Any particular advantage of a wood surface over marble (besides the weight)?

Thanks.

David

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ClimbHi

New "Kitchen Gadget"

Here's a pic of our latest toy -- a wood-fired oven ala Alan Scott. It makes wonderful bread and pizza as well as other tasty things. For example, after the bread is done, the oven is just right for loading up with a large pork butt or two. 12-14 hrs. later, perfect pulled pork to put on those fresh sandwich buns!

I'm new to this forum and I'm finding lots of useful information on breadmaking. All but what kind of mixer to buy, that is. Based on what I've read here, it'll be either a new KA or a Bosch. (It seems that no matter what I choose, 50% will be sure I made the wrong choice!) ;-)

ClimbHi
Pittsburgh, PA

 

Wood-Fired Oven

Wood-fired Oven 2Wood-fired, Pizza

 

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Wild-Yeast

Sourdough X-Files...,

Morning All,

I tried something that is a bit over the edge but now that it worked I'll admit to it.

I cooked a sourdough batard in a large Reynolds Oven Bag. The dough was proofed in a cotton lined basket, transfered to baking parchment, slashed and then carefully slid into the oven bag. The oven bag was tied shut with the plastic ties that came with the bags. The whole was then placed on the hot baking stone and slid into the oven to bake at 400 degrees Fahrenheit (the bags temperature limit). The timer was set for 20 minutes after which the bag and parchment were removed and the loaf continued cooking on the stone for an additional 15 minutes at 450 degrees Fahrenheit.

The spring rise was more than adequate with the crust browning quite a bit during the last phase of baking. Although very grayish-tan it was astonishingly chewy but not quite as crunchy as I'd like. The crumb taste and texture is almost creamy with a nutty background and wonderfully chewy with only a hint of sourness. I've got to think about this a little longer as the shock that it actually worked as well as it did is still clanging around in my head. I've nearly eaten half the loaf already just tasting it out. I'd take pictures but it's much later than I'd like having to rise bright eyed early tomorrow morning so it will be deferred till tomorrow.

By the by, if you do this make sure that the bag has plenty of clearence to the top of the oven. It will puff up with steam and stay that way. Also make sure that the end with the bag tie doesn't touch the ovens heating element at the top of the oven.

Wild-Yeast

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possum-liz

Help!! I want to bake 100% rye sourdough

HELP!!! I bake a lot for my friends and one of them want's 100% rye sourdough (she's a food purist).  I bake different sourdoughs all the time based on my white starter and feeding up to what ever type I want.  BUT my 100% rye is more like a brick. 

Any recipes/suggestions woud be much appreciated.  I'm in Australia so flour brands are different. For those Aussies among us I use Demeter's light and whole rye flours. I also have whole rye grain ,cracked rye and rolled rye to play with. 

Hope to hear from somebody out there.

Liz

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dmsnyder

Baking loaves covered - Clinical trial, uncontrolled.

We have had a stimulating and instructive discussion of methods of replicating the effects of commercial oven steam injection in home ovens. (See http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/7192/humidity-versus-steam#comment-36522) I found it interesting that many home bakers have found coving the loaf during the first half of the bake to yield the best results - better oven spring, crisper, thinner crust, etc. So, I had to try it.

 

My first attempt was with a bread I have made many times - Jeff Hamelman's "Miche, Ponte-a-Calliere." I made it with King Arthur Flour's First Clear Flour. There would not have been room in the oven to bake two loaves, even if I had divided the dough, so there is no experimental control, other than my past experience. I baked this miche covered with the bottom of a large, oval enameled metal roasting pan for 30 minutes, then removed the pan and finished the baking for another 25 minutes.

 

The results:

Ponte-a-Calliere Miche

Ponte-a-Calliere Miche 

Ponte-a-Calliere Miche Crumb

Ponte-a-Calliere Miche Crumb 

My conclusion is that this bread has as good a crust and crumb as any I've made but is not substantially different from the miches I've baked using hot water poured into a hot cast iron skillet after transferring the loaf to the baking stone. The crumb is a little less open than I wanted, but the dough was less slack. The weather has warmed up, and the flour was probably dryer. I should have added a bit more water.

David 

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BettyR

Help With My Bread Please

I keep getting these holes in my bread.

The taste and the texture are really good but I keep getting these cavernous holes; can anyone tell me what I’m doing wrong?

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dmsnyder

Humidity versus Steam

All the "artisan baking" (I know the adjective is "artisinal," Mike!) books I have provide instructions for humidifying the oven to approximate the function of steam injectors in professional bread ovens. Some recommend using ice cubes. Some recommend hot water. Some recommend humidifying the oven before putting loaves in. Others humidify after loading the loaves.

 I think it is Maggie Glezer in her recipe for Dan Lepards Country French Bread who recommends putting ice cubes in a pan before loading to "humidify" the oven and putting hot water in a skillet after loading the oven to "steam" it.

 Can anyone comment on this procedure and clarify 1) the difference between humidifying the oven and steaming the oven, 2) the difference in the timing of adding water (in whichever form) on oven spring and crust formation?

And, has anyone tried the garden sprayer method Glezer recommends? If so, does it really yield a different result than throwing hot water into a hot skillet?

 Thanks.

David

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MissyErin

BreadBakingDay #10 has been posted! Everyone is welcome and encouraged to participate!

BreadBakingDay #10 is up - please join in!  For those of you that aren't aware of BreadBakingDay - its a monthly event where people from all over the world bake bread for a specific theme!  This month's theme is Breakfast Breads!  All you have to do is take a picture of it and submit it - all the details are at:

http://www.bakingasweetlife.com/2008/05/06/breadbakingday-10-breakfast-breads/

Zorra at www.kochtopf.twoday.net started this fun blogging event for all of us to particapte in! 

~Melissa

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