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Baguettes are not bursting at the seams

Al the doughboy's picture
Al the doughboy

Baguettes are not bursting at the seams

Hi all,

Back to baking after a long break and loving it.  I have always had the problem below and wondered if anyone could advise what the problem is.  If I go to France or even good bakers here, a baguette or any loaf for that matter will burst through the lame slashes.  Its not quite happening for me - the cuts are very pronounced in the baked bread and the dough has not burst through.  I have included a picture of 2x mini baguettes which I made yesterday one where it kind of happened and another where it did not.

I was wondering if I should leave the shaped loaves to prove for a while after slashing or if they are drying out too much so I should slash earlier.  Any thoughts welcome,

Al

Davey1's picture
Davey1

Could be a sign of under - could be a sign of over - could be a lot of things. Keep things the same and try one or the other. See what happens and go from there. Enjoy!

Al the doughboy's picture
Al the doughboy

Over / underproving do you mean?  It may have been a bit over - thanks I’ll give that a go - it was taking ages so I popped it in the airing cupboard ! 

Davey1's picture
Davey1

Try both - one at a time that is. Enjoy!

Al the doughboy's picture
Al the doughboy

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tpassin's picture
tpassin

When scores open vigorously it's a sign that the loaf had a lot of oomph - the power to rise strongly and force the dough to expand a lot. Here are some common things that could reduce the oomph -

1. The dough has already risen about as much as it can, so it doesn't have much left to give during baking.  The total volume can be good, but most of it was achieved before the bake started.  Shortening the proof or even the bulk fermentation will help with this, since it will leave more rising power in reserve.

2. Everything was was otherwise OK, but the yeast ran out of food before expansion was complete.  A very pale crust could indicate this.  I'm never sure just how much of the final rise during baking is caused by yeast, but some of it is. (Other sources of rising are CO2 coming out of solution as the dough heats up, and water in the dough evaporating and expanding, making the dough rise). It might be that your flour could benefit by the addition of a little malted barley or some sugar (depending on the flour, of course) to provide more yeast food.  If this happens it also suggests shortening the fermentation periods so as not to use up as much of the yeast food.

If you refrigerate your loaves for some time before baking (hours, at least), the dough will be able to dissolve more CO2, and this should give more oomph during baking if you bake them right from the refrigerator.  If you retard the loaves this way, make sure to put them into the refrigerator roughly an hour before they would otherwise be fully proofed, since they will continue to ferment as they cool down.

3. The steaming of the oven wasn't effective enough so the crust has gotten stiff before it got a chance to expand to expand fully. Try to generate more steam if you can.  I'm assuming you are using a baking stone or steel.  If not, getting one should be your first move.  The stone or steel keeps pumping heat into the loaf while the steam has cooled down the crust and oven air temperature.  This heat keeps the expansion going while the cooler crust takes a longer time to expand.  This usually leads to better expansion of the scores.

It will also probably help if you keep the scoring blade closer to horizontal, so as to create an undercut lip.  The first of the pictures looks like you may already be doing this.

Al the doughboy's picture
Al the doughboy

Like Davey, great comments.  I think the bulk fermentation (that’s the first one before any shaping right) was too long on reflection.  The horizontal blade angle is a great but of advice too I had forgotten that and went vertical.  Bread is baked on stone.  In terms of moisture in the oven I usually throw some water into a tray which evaporates immediately - I’ll go back to misting - I usually break them from over exuberant misting

thank you ☺️ 

tpassin's picture
tpassin

I put small rocks into my steam pan. They increase the surface area emitting steam. Many people use lava rocks because, being porous, they should soak up more water. If all the water turns to steam immediately, then you need more water (and rocks might help).

Al the doughboy's picture
Al the doughboy

Wow ok -  I will try something first which is akin to the pan idea (no rocks though) small steps and check the result